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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 1, 2009 10:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

There was a thread a little bit ago about backing up your GD library. That got me going, now I'm putting my entire library on DVDs (making a data disc.)

Check out these DVD labels I made...it turns out to be easy to use with software. I essentially have one for each year the Dead played. Sweeeeeet......

Attachment: GD_1970.jpg
Attachment: GD_1971.jpg
Attachment: GD_1972_Part_1.jpg

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Jan 2, 2009 2:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Very nice. Guess you're not dealing with FLAC files, putting that many shows on one DVD. I can fit 4 shows on a DVD.

Thanks for sharing.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

I wish I could appreciate FLAC more. I recently downloaded the GD commercial release Steppin' Out: England '72 in FLAC format. I then converted the FLAC to .MP3 (around 180kbps). On Winamp I compared the quality of FLAC vs. MP3 and I couldn't tell a difference. Now I'm listening on crappy $80 computer speakers, but that is what I use to listen to all my music (besides my iPod.)

So I listen to all the music on my iPod or via the computer. Maybe when I come upon lots more money in the future I will find the corresponding FLAC GD concerts.

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Poster: ChefGregNashville Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: How do I get songs/shows from the archive to my itunes? please help!

Hello there,
I am having a terrible time trying to get the shows/songs from the archive onto my itunes can you help explain in simple terms how it's done?

thanks greg

This post was modified by ChefGregNashville on 2009-01-02 17:34:10

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do I get songs/shows from the archive to my itunes? please help!

First download the GD shows you want. Per Grateful Dead policy only audience recordings can be downloaded. Soundboard recordings can only be streamed.

Second, on your computer unzip the file with all the songs in it. They should be .mp3 files.

In iTunes, select File > Add Folder to Library ... and select the folder where all of the files you just unzipped.

Now they are in iTunes. If for some reason they are not tagged properly (like Artist = Grateful Dead) you'll need to find them in iTunes. However they should just show up as "Grateful Dead" under the artist window.

Hope that helps.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 2, 2009 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do I get songs/shows from the archive to my itunes? please help!

A couple more things I do that makes it easier to get into iTunes.

Once you have the zip file downloaded, rename the folder to something that makes sense as far as a file structure convention since you will likely add to the collection. I name my files "GD - 1977-05-08 Barton Hall - Cornell University (AUD 2 - Eaton), Ithaca, NY"

Once you get the files unzipped into the folder, select all the MP3 files, right click, select 'Properties' and click on the 'Summary' tab. Click 'Advanced' and edit the Artist (Grateful Dead or whatever band you have downloaded). I edit the Album title to the same name as the folder the MP3 files are in.

Then add the file using the Add Folder utility in iTunes. Everything comes over sorted by Artist and Album Title. On occasion you will have to go in and add the track and disc numbers for each song but this can be done in iTunes.

One last thing, if you move or edit the file after adding it to iTunes, iTunes will not be able to find it and you will have to go back and add the folder again.

Good luck.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 2, 2009 10:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do I get songs/shows from the archive to my itunes? please help!

Thanks MJ; that will help with searching functions I am sure (ie, the right click labeling you describe).

Excellent.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 10:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do I get songs/shows from the archive to my itunes? please help!

Mandojammer

Excellent advice. Your naming convention is eerily similar to mine. All my shows look like (in iTunes that is)

YYYY-MM-DD - [DP ##] [VENUE], [CITY], [STATE] ([SOURCE])
e.g.
1971-02-19 - Capitol Theatre, Port Chester, NY (Matrix)
1972-03-28 - [DP 30] Academy Of Music, NYC, NY (SBD)
1977-11-04 - Cotterell Gym (Colgate U), Hamilton, NY (AUD)

It makes everything in iTunes so easy to read. I also use the Disc # field to indicate the concert set#...so the first set songs will have 1, second set songs will have 2, encores are always the last number. You get the idea.

One more piece of excellent advice in my opinion. iTunes, by default, manages audio files in the location they are in. However you can change that so that iTunes will copy all files to a root directory of your choice. This puts every single audio file under one directory. For instance, if you copy the archive.org files to

c:/downloads/song1.mp3

when iTunes imports the file it will move it to a directory of your choice. On my computer it is d:/iTunes/

Two advantages: 1) every audio file is always in one directory, not spread out; 2) when you do a backup to an external HD, just copy d:/iTunes/ to the drive. It's super easy.

The only thing is you'll want to delete the file in the original location after iTunes import, or else you'll have two copies on your machine. In this case, after import from c:/downloads/song1.mp3, delete that.

Your advice is excellent and I recommend it for all iTunes users.

This post was modified by smgarcia on 2009-01-02 18:55:18

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 2, 2009 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do I get songs/shows from the archive to my itunes? please help!

this explains the "!" for songs in folders I dumped to itunes and when it couldn't find them, it spasmed...crashed...that song anyway...

i just don't use it enough to really justify all the effort, but glad you and MJ outlined the details for future use.

in future exchanges please introduce yourself as "itunes guy" so that I will always search on your name and this thread when I need to go back...suppose I could cut and past but that would represent more work.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 2, 2009 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Hey SD: so I have all my shows as SHNs and do what SMG does...I have some FLAC, but didn't realize this: they are that much larger than SNH? I know I should recall when Tiger/NC and others explained this to me, but since I convert FLAC to WAV to play (right, I think that's what I do) wouldn't that mean they are the same size? IE, if I store WAVs directly I get the ratio you mention (ie, 3-4 shows per 4 gb DVD).

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Jan 2, 2009 4:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Hey WT: From what I can gather, FLACS and SHNs are the same size, someone please correct me if I am wrong.

I would not think that WAVS are the same size though. I would burn the SHNs or FLACS, not the WAVS. Actually, when I am done converting some of my shows to WAV to send to Itunes (MP3), I immediately erase the WAVS. Thus keeping the FLAC files.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 2, 2009 6:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Oh, well then why can't you get more FLACs on a DVD? IE, SHNs allow you to do 8 or so...

Or maybe I have gotten confused...

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Hey William Tell...here is a link to the etree forum on this website about FLAC vs. SHN. http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=5745

I don't know the real difference between these. The difference in sound quality is not really noticeable to me as I think one needs high end speakers to hear the difference. And I certainly don't have high-end speakers. :-)

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Poster: wonsing Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

try shn > flac8 > wave and keep the high end @ 48 max

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jan 2, 2009 6:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Very nice!! Mind if I ask what software you used?
Can you use it to make cd/dvd covers as well?

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Hi. First I burn the DVD's with iTunes but you can use any program you are comfortable with. Since I manage everything with iTunes, it is easy to make a playlist and then burn. Additionally it exports all of the metadata (ratings, comments, groups, etc.) that I fill out for all of my concerts.

I then purchased Memorex CD Label Refills (http://www.tapeandmedia.com/detail.asp?product_id=MEM32020412). On the package there is a link to download software that allows you to make DVD labels specifically for these labels. It's called exPressIt Design Studio.

It is kind of a clumsy program in my opinion, but it is quite powerful and has many advanced features. Such as changing the color/brightness/contrast of images, emboss/sepia/solarize etc them too. I was able to change many of the GD Steal Your Face backgrounds to make the text more legible. It probably took me 3-5 hours playing around with the software to make things work for the labels. But now that I have one done, I use it as a template for others, so it only takes me about 5-10 minutes to do subsequent labels. I'll be burning about 24 DVD's so it's a big time saver.

I also scoured the web for GD images, and the best one I found is at http://www.purplemoon.com/Stickers/SYF.html. This is a brilliant website! There are many more images on other pages from the website too...don't limit yourself to the link I provided you.

Next, it would be nice if you had a color printer. :-)

Lastly I bought a pack of 50 DVD's (CD+R) for about $25. I also use that case to perfectly align the stickers on the DVD's. (that is a must...it looks professional.)

Now. For CD/DVD covers. Do you mean making the paper inserts for CD jewel cases? If that is what you mean the program does allow you to make it. It does not allow you to make a CD booklet though. I made a Just For Kids GD cd for my cousins and I made a 14 page CD booklet (it's fuckin' SWEET) and I did that on Microsoft Office Publisher, it was pretty easy to use.

Hope that helps...I'm off to making more DVD labels.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Just be carefull putting sticker labels on the data side of a an optical disk. I have had CD's explode because they became unbalanced and started warbling at a few thousand RPM's amd have peeled off data after labels started bubbling after a few years of lazer hit, humidity and that dread time thing.

Check the adhesives for solvents and stuff that might attack those little 0's and 1's. I used to make labels for all my CD's, maybe technology has changed since then. Next time I consider labels will be with one of these:

http://www.supermediastore.com/supermediastore-thermal-disc-printer.html

Or maybe a better quality one. Another wishlist category for my OCD, great.

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

NC thanks for the advice. I have read about those concerns, specifically the unbalanced part of putting stickers on. I use the DVD storage case to help me align the stickers as close to perfect as I possibly can.

Plus I don't plan on playing these too much unless my HD blows up, which I HOPE DOES NOT HAPPEN. I also backup my entire drive to a external drive too - just in case. :-)

That thermal burner device is cool!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 2, 2009 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Thanks SMG & NC. Good bits to add to my limited techno hard-disk between my ears....

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 2, 2009 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

Outstanding! And I like your selecton of shows for 70...

Like FB, question: did you use the system of "lightscribe" or whatever the heck it's called that "comes" with many burners these days to "label" the disk (I have never used it)? Or, did you buy labels for discs that you printer with a printer and then "stick" to the disk?

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

I bought stickers (I just posted about this - the Memorex CD labels), printed them on my color printer and stuck them on. The other method you mention, "lightscribe" sounds awesome. I just read about it. It actually burns the image onto your DVD. Just like what you get when you buy commercial CDs!

But I don't have that DVD burner. So I just made stickers and put them on. They look really good and don't affect playback (as far as I can tell from my testing). Additionally, when I purchased the 50 DVD pack I used that to "stamp" the sticker on the DVD in a way that it's aligned near perfectly. This is instead of trying to stick it on myself.

And re: the 1970 shows...you helped me find them! So you're helping a fellow GD fan. :-)

Look at my 1965-1969 disc...

Attachment: GD_1960s.jpg

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 1, 2009 10:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

A few more...

Attachment: GD_1972_Part_2.jpg
Attachment: GD_1973_Part_1.jpg

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Poster: wonsing Date: Jan 2, 2009 12:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

did you balance them ?

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Jan 2, 2009 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

I'm not sure what you mean balance? I split 1972 based on file size...1972 A and B have about 4 GB each.

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Poster: wonsing Date: Jan 2, 2009 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My Dead DVD Labels...I'm so proud of myself

won't Ogg Vorbis play in your itunes ?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Jan 2, 2009 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Converts any file to itunes... even streaming

http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/

Can be really interesting at certain times also. Be sure to track your file (represented as a ball) all the way through the process.

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